Christian Nationalism

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I just came across an EXCELLENT article entitled, “Here’s where Christian Nationalism comes from, and what it gets wrong.”

Since some of you may not be familiar with this movement and/or the ideology behind it, here is an excellent explanation from the article:

It holds that, like Israel of the Old Testament, America is God’s chosen instrument to fulfill his purposes on Earth. Its adherents believe that America was intended, both by its founders and by God himself, to be a Christian nation, and that defenders of that birthright are divinely appointed to reinstate it by means of political power.

I’m sure many of you who watched the videos of the January 6, 2021 debacle saw individuals carrying the Trump and Confederate flags — but did you also notice the several participants who were carrying Christian flags and wearing clothing with slogans such as “Jesus 2020” and “Jesus in my savior. Trump is my president“?

Christian Nationalism is very popular among many conservative white American evangelicals; in fact, there are reports that some pastors even encouraged their members to attend Trump’s rally.

I really hope you will take the time to read the referenced article because it not only provides some history behind the movement, why its establishment in government has become so important to evangelicals … and even more importantly … why there is an urgency to activate it in the U.S.

The article can be found (link removed) — use PDF file below.

Necessary Qualifier: The article author is an ordained minister (among other things) — and although he believes America needs the Christian gospel, he does NOT support “Christian Nationalism.”

NOTE: Here is a PDF file since most visitors were unable to access the article directly:

Christian Nationalism

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    • If you type the article title into Google, you MIGHT be able to access it. It’s really worth reading so I hope others don’t run into a “wall” as well.

      UPDATE: I have added a link to a PDF file at the end of my post.

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        • “It is darkness masquerading as light”, “You just need a sizable minority, marinating in its grievances, willing to act as a block and impervious to correction by fact or argument”, “On its own, none of those four themes is strong enough to have created Jan. 6. There’s nothing wrong with loving superhero movies or with taking pride in America’s religious heritage. But mixed together, these elements form a cocktail that threatens to stupefy both democracy and faith.”- spot on! The “hero worship” it speaks of is central to their mindset, eradicating any rational thought going forward.

          What I keep coming back to as we’ve seen Christian Nationalism rise is how much the religious community has been used as pawns. The ones in power have always understood how to manipulate these people. Everything in this excellent article points to the obvious any reasonable person would agree to but the decision to suspend thinking and let powerful men use them for their agenda seems to be more important.

          Thank you for putting it into a PDF, Nan!

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        • …is how much the religious community has been used as pawns.

          Susi, that is a great and accurate statement! I wish I had the liberty to fully convey, fully write out JUST HOW true your statement really is because of the historical significance it implies… over 2,000 years!

          This manipulation by the Patriarchal elite goes back even into Christianity’s earliest roots and soil, and beyond that. It permeates throughout the Judeo-Christian church prior even to “The Way“—the small sect that Yeshua bar Yosef lead (Jesus):

          “The Way”(John 14:6), this name was used widely in the Book of Acts. The below verses prove that they were known more widely as “the Way”, than the “Christians”, especially as Paul introduces himself as a follower of “the Way” to the Governor, and not as a “Christian”(Acts 24:14), even though they were known as “Christians”

          • Acts 9:2, Acts 19:9, Acts 19:23, 24:14, and 24:22, just to name five verses.

          One of the biggest reasons Jews were constantly arguing and bickering amongst themselves—hence the severe fallouts in the 1st-century Late Second Temple Period smack in the middle of unprecedented Messianic fervor—that Homeland Judaism over those many decades fragmented and fragmented into various sects, several of them vehemently opposed to each other when it came to the purpose and operation of The Temple and the Priests, the Sadducees, to the lower-class Pharisees, on outward to rural areas of the Essenes, Nasoraeans, Ebionites, and Zealots to name just seven. There were several others too considered smaller, insignificant minor groups.

          The point here is during those centuries many, many religious, political, and military Patriarchs were vying for more power, more wealth. How was this perpetually possible—right up until today in the 21st-century? Illiteracy and poor-to-no public education of the masses. If an uneducated illiterate cannot imagine or fathom the mechanisms used to control them socially, economically, or spiritually (paranormally? HAH!), then HOW can they recognize when they’re being used, manipulated by a fictitious God and that God’s “direct vessels on Earth?” They can’t.

          What differences are there then compared to naïve minions today? 😉

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  3. I can read it for a while, but then it becomes inaccessible with a pop-up subscribe window.

    Frankly, I know many early settling groups wanted to make themselves so-to-speak a religious conclave. Well, I don’t know, personally, since I wasn’t there to observe and verify, but it’s what I have seen reason to think. At first, the idea among many (it seems not so much the Quakers in Pennsylvania) was not that they wanted a world with no religious persecution, but one in which their religion was not persecuted. So, my lack of understanding, isn’t so much the history of how it happened, but why people must think this way at all. Let alone Bible-believing Christians who have written in their New Testament all sorts of things that suggest that, or even command, not to be of this world, and it’s hard to think any government can possibly uphold or be in line with all the teachings of Jesus – take, for example, the Sermon on the Mount. Honestly, how can a government be anything that can be thought of a Christian with any reason?

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  4. The Mormons believe this is the new Jerusalem, which is funny because Jerusalem was the New Salem, so the new Jerusalem would be the new new Salem. Rehashing is popular in religion.
    But they believe this is the promised land and where it will usher in the second coming. All the founders were inspired by god in writing the constitution which would allow Mormonism to be revealed through a modern prophet.
    Seems this was a pretty popular theme in the early years of America.
    Ps; I couldn’t access the article either.

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    • I’ve heard/read some of that stuff about the Mormons, but I think you have first-hand knowledge. Right?

      I think I’ll just remove the link to the article and visitors can access it via the PDF file.

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      • This from their articles of faith—
        We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes. That Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon this, the American continent, that Christ will reign personally upon the earth and that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
        Also the garden of eden was in Jackson County Missouri and that will be the hub where all the ancient prophets including Adam will gather in the last days.

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  5. I can access it, but it is long and it’s late for me. I will read it tomorrow. All I can say is this movement is very dangerous. I feel like I’m living back in medieval times when people believed in witches, sorcerers, demons and the like. It’s sick, but it’s also a force of power and control. Something must end this madness or we are all doomed. And while the nones may be rising, this Christian nationalism is on the rise as well. It’s the mainstream churches that are losing ground.

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    • Yes, I agree with you Mary … it is very dangerous. And what adds to the danger is there are so many in Congress that are connected to the Federalist Society. The two go hand-in-hand.

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      • Yes and I just saw today some GOP in Arizona is introducing a law to ban any discussion or mention of the name of homosexuality and to limit sex education. These people will be after LGBTQ next after they finish taking care of women’s rights. Federalist Society and similar others are quite powerful..and rich

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  6. Interestingly, when the Constitution was being debated for ratification, the smaller Christian sects, including the evangelicals, were all in favor of a secular government for the country. They figured, correctly, that if the Congregationalists or the Anglicans got voted in as the official state religion of a state, and the state started collecting tithes via its taxing power, then they might be frozen out of power for a very long time.

    Now that the evangelicals have some power, if they get a state religion policy adopted, what happens if a state becomes a majority Muslim state? Or, for that matter, majority Catholic! How would they like their tax money going to an Imam or the Pope? If they thought about it . . . but thinking isn’t their long suit.

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  7. Please excuse the incredible brevity I’m about to submit here Nan. 😍😉

    Well first, I will say that at least the author/journalist got one thing right: he doesn’t support Christian Nationalism. Of course, whether America “needs” the Christian Gospel is highly debatable from the Constitution’s standpoint—Separation of Church & State among one major problem—and second, to try and concoct it publicly too often borders on UN-Constitutional foundations, making the dream near impossible to defend or purport.

    Some excerpts from Ryan Sanderson’s 17-page opine:

    [Christian Nationalism] is on the contrary, like all the most dangerous errors, it is attractive because it seems good. It is darkness masquerading as light, like the Apostle Paul warned. In modern parlance, we might say it is truth-adjacent.

    This exegesis about Paul’s Epistles dealing with Rome isn’t necessarily correct on Sanderson’s part. It does not take into account the full contextual background with mainly Gentiles which Saul of Tarsus (Paul) was engaging and evangelizing to. Sanderson makes the horrendous mistake that the Canonical New Testament and Paul’s Epistles reflect the entirety of the Roman Empire inside 1st-century CE Syro-Palestine and Nabataea, all in turmoil with Homeland Jews of the Late Second Temple Period of Sectarian Judaism & Messianic fervor. In fact, I’m very sure Mr. Sanderson has no clue how narrowly thin, tiny the lens of Paul’s letters actually refract regarding Rome and their nemesis, Homeland Jews with their Temple. This is pretty clear when he writes:

    One factor that makes this movement especially impervious to correction is its seeding in eschatology, the study of End Times.

    His HUGE faux pas is that Jesus’/Yeshua’s Jewish sect and Jewish “eschatology,” along with at least 5-6 other dissident Jewish sects were in fact, behaving exactly like “Christian Nationalists”—according to THEIR own divine Scriptures, the Tanakh—only they would’ve been called Jewish Nationalists (Zionist?). Yes, OF COURSE these Christian Evangelical Nationalists are behaving badly BECAUSE this is all rooted in the exact same nationalism that 1st-century BCE thru 2nd-century CE Homeland Jews were facing, fighting for against Rome! Sanderson, it’s also in YOUR holy Scriptures sir!

    Therefore, Sanderson’s own starting point here is BADLY flawed, amputated, and distorted over 2-millenia by the Roman Catholic Church then all Protestant faiths that follow. Now his American tales or writing of American Christendom may be correct, but sadly his origination with Paul and the entire Canonical and Greek New Testament is horribly wrong.

    Throughout our nation’s history, Christianity has promoted harmony, morality, stability and good will.

    This can just as well be disproven given that “Christianity” in ALL of its multiple forms, denominations, and American past, I’d argue its Dark and Vile face and behaviors are well-known and documented. In fact, that ledger may well be in the red or negative!

    …America was intended, both by its founders and by God himself, to be a Christian nation…

    I’ve already dealt with this highly erroneous notion by ANY religious groups claiming that the U.S. was intended and founded (by the Founding Fathers) as a Christian nation. Here’s that link again, if I may Nan: ❤️

    https://professortaboo.com/2015/05/11/the-mistaken-identity-of-the-u-s/

    But please do not take MY WORD for it. Do your own legwork and discover this yourself! There are numerous acclaimed, expert scholars who also debunk this fantasy from the ultra-religious. For example, Andrew L. Seidel and his outstanding proofs and work in The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is Un-American (Sterling Publishing, 2019, ISBN 978-1-4549-3328-1)

    To conclude, while I do appreciate Mr. Sanderson’s position against “Christian Nationalism,” he falls enormously short in his breakdown and historical referencing of accurate, verified, and fully contextual Late Second Temple Judaism/Messianism (or Nationalism), and Jewish eschatology that FED DIRECTLY much/most of Mr. Sanderson’s own modern Faith, whether he claims not to be a State or Nationalistic Christian or he does. In essence, he is stabbing holes in the very same life-boat his fellow Christian Nationalists are floundering in. 😄

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      • WHAT!? 🤣 Now Madame, that sounds like an Arkesatan trick if I ever read one! Pffffffttt! Trying to get me into a long debate/argument with a Southern Baptist Minister! 🤨 Do you know just how many SB ministers I have gone round-n-round with Lady!!!!!? 🤭

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  8. Just a question, PT. How does all this fit in with the Christianization of the Red People? We were not allowed to retain our own spirituality, and it had to go underground to survive as best it could!

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    • “How does all this fit in with…” what hyper-religious Republicans claim, or what far-right Republicans claim, what Mr. Ryan Sanderson claims, or what I am breaking down and claiming?

      Sorry, I’m unsure of precisely what you are asking. Would you please elaborate some more or perhaps rephrase the question? I’d appreciate that; thanks. 🙂

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      • Just going back to the times America was being created, and religious freedom was supposedly being offered to all, except NOT THE SAVEAGE RED MAN. What we had was deemed not worthy of being a religion. The Great Spirit could not be mentioned in the same sentence as the One True God. So e religious freedom!

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        • Ahh, see… I thought when you used the term “Red” that you meant the Red-States, Red-Republicans, Red-governing. HAH! 😄 But you meant skin-color or ethnicity of the Native American Indians. Gotcha.

          Well, I’m sure you are speaking rhetorically here and now I see both your questions are also a bit rhetorical. 😉 Nevertheless, you hit the nail on the head:

          …religious freedom was supposedly being offered to all [within the words of the American Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights], except NOT THE SAVEAGE RED MAN. What we had was deemed not worthy of being a religion.

          In most of the minds of racist, bigoted, prejudiced, and discriminatory WHITE American colonists and their “Leaders,” particularly in the South, those supposedly sacred, “divinely inspired” American Founding documents drawn up primarily by our six (6) Core Founding Fathers, were only intended for white people in the 13 original Colonies and then eventually after about 1790 when the infancy of “Manifest Destiny” was spawned, there was an EVIL presupposition and mindset in White America in the East (of the Mississippi River) that God ordained the new Israel/Jerusalem to move ever westward, not giving one iota of care, consideration, or rights according to the aforementioned Founding Documents of the USA, to anyone else other than white America only. Talk about a hypocritical double-standard, eh?

          But then again, the Founding Faith of Christianity (Judaism) thought the same way and did the exact same thing all throughout their Bronze Age to the Modern Age history (today’s political State of Israel). Jews literally exterminated other peoples throughout The Levant because their God told them it was theirs, and to slaughter hundreds of thousands of previous residents. American Christianity simply (and blindly) followed suit in the New World, as did Spain and the old Roman Catholic Church in their Age of Exploration & Colonization of the Americas.

          But I’m sure rawgod you are quite aware of this more expanded contextual history and I’m very glad you are.

          Mr. Ryan Sanderson here, along with millions of other Protestant Christians in America, love to pass the buck to other “heretical” Christian denominations, ala the RCC’s Inquisitions, like “Christian Nationalists.” But what they want to sweep under the rug is that the exact same directives from the Tanakh (Hebrew Old Testament) into the canonical Greek New Testament IS INDEED the same Bible/Blue-print that Sanderson somehow thinks he and his Southern Baptists can distinguish themselves away from, as more righteous, holier exegesis and eschatology. THEY and Sanderson try to twist it into a different Yahweh/God commission… to evangelize the world. The major problem with what Sanderson and millions of other “Christians” are trying to exclude, separate themselves from, simply cannot be done.

          They all claim to and cling to the exact same Greek Canonical New Testament and Canonical Old Testament. Each Christian denomination or Jewish sect can’t cherry-pick every decade or century what applies to them, what doesn’t, what suits them at the time, while trying to ignore, overlook, and disclaim OTHER parts of their Bibles! THAT’S WHY IT WAS ALL CANONIZED for ALL Christians between the 3rd-century CE thru the 7th-century CE. No exceptions, according to the RCC and earliest Protestant churches.

          See how utterly convoluted and in the end unrecognizable any type of “singular authority” (e.g. God, Jesus, New Testament, etc, et al.) or a hyper-religious group—and for that matter, ANY religious faith/group—will never be able to utilize a paranormal, fictitious Divine Being to be the ultimate final authority of humans on Earth and their governments/nations? This DAMN SURE applies to being giving Carte Blanche to annihilate or exterminate an entire race, culture, or peoples!

          Hope that elaborates on your excellent implied questions rawgod. 😉

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        • Pretty well said, PT. Double, triple, and quadruple standards are evident everywhere, and it is EVERYWHERE white colonials found indigenous peoples. Our spiritualusm had NO VALUE, so they tried to force it out of us, preferably by genocide. When they made the Sun Dance illegal in North America, “verbotten!”, they went too far. They showed their true colours. But unfortunately, they had all the power, and guns, and deadly diseases. Our lives were forever changed.
          But, we are still here, and we always will be!

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        • I empathize with you and your ancestry rawgod, assuming of course you have 1/2, 1/4th, 1/8th, or 1/16th Native American in your genome and family. 🙂

          Honestly, I am VERY happy you and our Native American heritage is still here, never going away! I was also THRILLED to death, tickled pink, that our Founding Fathers actually learned the essential basics of “democracy” from the Eastern Canadian/American Indians westward to the eastern shores of the Great Lakes, then borrowed those principles to lay the foundation of our nation’s Constitutional principles! See this link:

          https://www.pbs.org/native-america/blogs/native-voices/how-the-iroquois-great-law-of-peace-shaped-us-democracy/

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        • Thank you for this information, Prof. I had never heard any of this before, but none of it surprises me. My own ancestry is very hard to calculate, as originally a French sailor from the ship of Jaques Cartier took a native woman to be his Canadian bride, though rumour had it he was already married in Paris, so mine is in a long line of half-breed bastards, according to the Roman Catholic Church. Over the following generations his Canadian sons and grandsons married or consorted with fully native women as they pushed west from Quebec through Ontario (Lower and Upper Canada at the time ) into Northern Ontaro, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. Most paper records have been lost, but verbal traditions have it that the journey took many generations. It sort of climaxed in Fort Garry, now known as Winnipeg, where my bastard father– nothing to do with ancestry — decided to hide his native heritage, and married a Polush immigrant, trying to make his children white. You could say he hated all Red men. He even changed the family name to an English name, and never had the honesty to tell us we were of native blood. But that is a different story… The result is I figure I am about 30% to 40% Indigenous and the rest European, but to spite my father’s stupidity I now announce myself as being of many native bloodlines, with a touch of white. Visually I can pass as white amongst whites, as almost pure Polish amongst Poles, but I am always recognized as indigenous by other indigenous people. I guess you could call me a racial chameleon. But one thing I am not is Indian. I have no known relatives from India.
          I call myself an Original Human Inhabitant of Turtle Island, which is our name for North America, or OHITI by initials. Unfortunate I never learned a native tongue, so I have to concede to using an English bastardization of whatever that would translate to in one of the many languages I could lay claim to between Quebec and the Canadian Prairies.
          Meanwhile, I suppose it would be too stupid to wonder why the basis for US democracy actually comes from the Iroquois Confederacy, but hardly anyone knows that! It does not seem to be well advertised for some reason…

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        • This is a fantastic story rawgod, in the sense of genealogies and the contexts with every generation. The background of your father’s denial of Native heritage, not so much I would think. I’ve heard hundreds of stories similar to your family’s regarding the systemic, gradual removal of North American Indigenous peoples from written history after so many thousands (millions?) were systemically wiped-out (genocide) by American Manifest Destiny as you alluded to earlier.

          Here in Texas I have a similar story myself about my own family heritage too being systemically removed from Texas history by the current and last 2-3 Republican Administrations in Austin’s Governorships, Houses, and Senates. It is called:

          https://professortaboo.com/2021/07/11/texas-1836-project/

          Out of courtesy to Nan, I don’t want to get too far off subject with this line of dialogue rawgod, but if you’re interested hop over to that blog-post of mine and I could elaborate further about HOW an 8th-generation, white Texan like myself and my long family history has been gradually losing his ancestral Texian-Tejas history to a constant overflow of out-of-state immigrating White Americans (R), going back well before Texas flipped from a long-standing blue Democrat state (pre-1960) to a Republican dominated red state in 1990. The “White-man Republican” hold is not going away in social, economic, or political sectors without a real bloody fight. I mean that literally, if you simply look at our gun-laws and open-carry laws with little-to-NO licensing or extensive training. I won’t go into the new $10,000 bounty on young women’s heads this insane, asinine government will pay ordinary (gun-carrying) citizens to HUNT DOWN vigilante style, women who attempt or obtain abortions prior to 6-weeks pregnant!!! 🥺 It’s effin bonkers here!

          Fyi Nan, many thanks for indulging our off-topic tangent here and taking up a lot of comment-space. ❤️

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  9. Nan, I once wrote a post based on a song lyric by The Eagles’ Don Henley. It was called “God is not an American.” His and my point is God or Allah is far bigger than one country. America’s founding fathers’ forebears (and some of them) escaped religious persecution in other places, so their construct was a separation of church and state. While Sinclair Lewis did not actually say the following, the sentiment seems to appear in several of his novels. “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.” I think we should focus more on that golden rule thing which is so appropriate it appears in several religious texts rather than using religious text as a weapon to divide. Keith

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      • Nan, since too many politicians don’t want to be leaders, we must show them the behavior we want, expect and deserve. If they cannot treat people well or speak truthfully, then we need to ask them to leave. This lack of accountability lets them act boorishly with impunity. For some reason, people equate kindness with weakness. That is unfortunate. Keith

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  10. The people who want Christian Nationalism are like romantic girls who want to get married … their fantasies of marriage end at the wedding reception, the throwing of the rice when the happy bride & groom are leaving for their fabulous honeymoon on some beach.

    The truth is, if/when a Christian government is put into place, every Christian sect & cult will start fighting with every other sect & cult. Forget about non-Christians being outlawed … if you’re the wrong kind of Christian, your kind of Christianity will be outlawed as well. It all depends on which sect/cult ends up being the one in power.

    This is well documented in history. This is, in fact, the reason why the founding fathers insisted on the separation of church & state.

    But Christians have always been among the stupidest people on earth & American Christians are probably more stupid than any other creature … they don’t believe in any kind of education, everything they need to know is in the Bible. So the rest of us will suffer.

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  12. The following comment (which went into moderation due to too many links) was left on my post related to God’s nature; however, it’s really more about Christian Nationalism. Once I read it, I decided to copy and post it here (with some editorial modifications) as I think the writer (cagjr) made some excellent points.

    Ignore religion at your own peril. The Christian Nationalists, et al, played Trump and the spineless GOP for everything they were worth, and now they are so deep into the overthrow of the government, that they have little choice but to plunge ahead. I left Christianity quietly, with no thoughts of retribution or any anger except at myself for taking so long to wake up.

    I was unaware of any of this background struggle for world dominion by the church. They brought the fight to the American people.

    I have been scolded over and over for my obvious dislike for a system I used to try so hard to be part of. There are lately some Christians pushing back against those other Christians who are leading the assault on our republic and our democratic system of governance. But those who try to resist the corruption of their religion are few and weak in comparison to the Christian Nationalists.

    The goal is to redefine America according to the Christian nationalist identity and then reshape the law accordingly. As of the end of April 2018, Project Blitz has resulted in more than 70 proposed bills nationwide. Christian nationalism’s identity is built on the foundational myths underlying these bills; this inescapable point is reflected in their legislative strategy. (Seidel, Andrew L (2019-05-13T23:58:59). The Founding Myth. Sterling. Kindle Edition.)

    As historian Keisha N. Blain noted:

    “The failure to convict former President Donald Trump is unfortunate but not surprising. In effect, it reveals that violence and white supremacy will continue to shape American politics—as they have since the nation’s founding.”

    A self-avowed Christian Nationalist commented:

    “It is not yours. You did not build it, you did not defend it, and you will not own it. We will. The Christian patriots of this nation will own this nation and rule this nation and help freedom survive for future generations.” (NC Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, at today’s “Stand Up For America” rally.)

    I know this is overkill and I’m addressing people who may not be Christians or of any other religion, and maybe I come across as a loose cannon or a wild-eyed lunatic, but I came to my conclusions through watching what all of us have observed. Our democracy is under assault. January 6th was a beginning and not an isolated incident. The same behavior has been going on in statehouses across the country since Trump was elected. When a political party, a religion, or a social movement undertakes to overthrow the government, then they have declared themselves to be enemies of the state.

    Both Islam and Christianity have declared their intention to rule the world. They will use whatever means necessary to achieve their goals. After all, many of them think Jesus will not return until they, ‘the church’, has subdued the world. If they subdue the world, what need do they have for a god?

    I only ask that people sit up and pay attention. You may not feel like fighting the church, but it certainly feels like it’s fighting you and your democracy.

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  14. Nan, I think his position may come across as bordering on Theocratic, at least in the sense of wanting to legislate things like abortion, which the government should stay out of, however, I would like to get your thoughts regarding Rick Santorum.

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