Me and Politics

For most of my life, I have cared next to nothing about politics. In fact, my outlook towards the subject was pretty much what the image shows.

Oh, I had a vague idea of what was going on, but I was much more interested in the activities of my personal life than I was in “politics.”

The first time I took any interest at all was in 2008 when McCain and Obama were running. I disliked McCain, but that nincompoop he had selected for a running mate was, for me, simply over-the-top. (See this post.)

Of course I was very thankful that Obama ended up winning, but once he was in office, I paid little to no attention to his actions; in fact, people have written about some of his less-than-favorable activities and I was clueless. Perhaps that’s not a “good thing,” but that was where I was at the time.

Although my interest level today has changed considerably, it’s my opinion that there are untold numbers of people who are just like I was — totally uninterested (or only vaguely interested) in what’s going on in the “political world.”

And it is these people that I believe base their votes on political party. Period. They pay no attention (or very little) to the various and sundry “opinions” being addressed on the numerous political communication outlets (including political blogs). Nor do they care what friends and/or family think. They vote party lines. Always.

Let me be clear. This is not to say this “disinterest” is a good thing. But sometimes I think we need to accept that this is simply where some people are. It’s where I was for many, many years …

29 thoughts on “Me and Politics

  1. I was the exact same way until I met David two years ago. He has explained so many things to me so that now I can understand about people making decisions and what to sort of may attention to. One of the problems I found, I’m sure not only this time around but the only time I noticed, is that with all the mailings and commercials there isn’t a political party stated. I don’t know if this is good or bad. I mean when it comes to how the Senate has been with being heavy on Republicans I think it could matter if someone was concerned with getting in a few democrats. I think one of the biggest things this time around is that it almost has NOTHING to do with political party in my eyes, it is about being a decent human being or not.

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      • Not to me. I think people uninterested in politics don’t bother registering and, hence, voting.

        And there are plenty of people like me who have adapted our politics, thoughtfully, I dare say, as the Republican Party has moved consistently—indeed dramatically—to the right over the past decades.

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        • I was probably remiss in using the term “totally uninterested” as these people would most likely, as you suggested, take no part in voting at all. In fact, as I recall, there was a time when I didn’t vote.

          However, I do feel there are many who have only a “passing interest” in politics. These people may well register and vote, but since they probably have not spent much time studying people and/or issues (either by choice or by circumstances) — they simply vote along party lines.

          Of course there are those — and we see it on Facebook, Twitter, and online posts — that take a very active interest in politics.

          The primary point of my post is, as I said in my closing, I feel we need to accept people where they are. Getting frustrated or angry or hostile over “politics” accomplishes nothing. It may make for a good show (i.e., Trump’s followers), but it rarely changes minds.

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  2. Hello Nan. People tend to see things through a peephole of their own viewpoints. In your post you were happy with your viewpoint and seen no reason to expand it. Then you made it a bit bigger, then you made it a window. I think you must have gotten some political information from your church friends though? I have always looked for new information, listened to people talk about things I did not understand, and read newspapers if I could get them. On Sundays I would have news papers spread open and as many news shows on as I could watch and record. Then came a magical device called computer and the internet.

    So while I understand people being busy, while I understand that the struggle to live safely in our country today, it is now possible to stay semi informed without really trying hard. So much has changed in a short time. What is happening in the community and the country is almost pushed in our faces these days. In the old days you had to set aside time to watch news shows, you had to take the time to buy and read a newspaper. Today we have news alerts flashing on our phone all the time, YouTube has news headlines, The local radio stations have quick news segments between songs. The person who doesn’t want to be some informed has to work hard today to stay that way.

    Nan do you miss the mode of information you were in. In our turbulent times do you wish you were in that same mode? I think it would lower my blood pressure a lot. 😀😉 Hugs

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    • Scottie, you are totally correct that “news” is EVERYWHERE! A person would pretty much have to live in a cave to avoid it. However, just because it’s “there” doesn’t mean everyone is paying attention.

      It’s difficult to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes, but at times I think it’s something we need to do. Too often we tend to think others are just like us … when they’re not. Their circumstances, lifestyle, or background may be totally opposite. For example, you love absorbing information. Others could care less.

      I can’t pinpoint any particular thing in my life that contributed to my “non-interest” in politics. Perhaps it had something to do with the way I was raised. Or perhaps it’s like I said in my post … my personal life/activities were much more interesting.

      In any event, since 2016, my interest in politics has skyrocketed! In fact, I sometimes wish I could go back to my ho-hum days. 🙂

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  3. I agree that there are probably many people like your former self, that simply don’t feel like taking the time to stay informed and for a variety of reasons, don’t show up at the polls. One factor behind people’s failure to participate is that they don’t think their vote will make a difference. The trick for campaign managers is finding out who all the holdouts are and talking to them directly. My sister has been canvassing for Biden. She lives in a community where the Republican candidate usually wins. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a sizable number of Democrats who live there, just that Republicans have the majority. She and her husband got the names of people who are registered Democrats but rarely go to the polls–possibly because they’ve watched their preferred candidates lose repeatedly in local elections and have come to believe the time they take to cast a vote is better spent doing something else. My sister claims that talking to these people has been productive. Previously, she was calling voters and getting nowhere. In general, I think that there are myriad reasons why people fail to vote and that substantial numbers of people belong to each category.

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  4. Oh Nan, there are VOLUMES and VOLUMES that I want to say, share, explain, encourage, etc, about each and every American citizen taking very seriously their legal right to express their Civil Virtues, Civil Obligations, Civil Responsibilities, and your individual part within a/the common good. But sadly I fear such a vital, yet extensive summation or essay would overwhelm many Americans and perhaps some of your blog-followers and readers, i.e. risk boring you and they to tears. 😄 😉

    And yet, happily and earnestly applying one’s civil duties & virtues of expression—along with most/all citizens within a democratic nation—is THE ONLY WAY democracy works and thrives for a/the common good. Just one citizen shunning or wasting their individual right to express their human virtues, values, protections for self, for family, and loved ones for at least 1-3 generations of your offspring to come or more, means those benefits DO NOT happen (or to lesser/greater degrees), possibly/probably immediately or eventually! Furthermore, by shunning/wasting those legal-civil rights you then increase the chances that someone or a group of someones (Mobsters, a minority ideology?) of less scruples, less values, no principles, could care less about any “common good,” and will manipulate the laws, legislation, the 3-Branches of government, etc, etc, et al, mostly or completely for their own benefit.

    When several, many, or too many citizens throw away, piss away their legal right to be engaged, involved, active, and doing their part within a democracy, then that apathy, indifference, or laziness proportionately dismantles the democratic system, institutions, justice, equality, education for ALL, etc, ad infinitum! Non-existent citizens are essentially giving politicians like Donnie tRumpsky, Spiro Agnew, Carroll Hubbard, Randy “Duke” Cunningham, Huey Long, Edwin Edwards, and at least 100 more I could name off… Carte Blanche, more free-reign and slack to take over the country; little by little, or in massive chunks.

    Bottom-line? Democracy cannot and will not survive by an inactive, indifferent, uninformed citizenry. Period.

    Nan, I sure hope that Wednesday is a HAPPY, do lots of jigs, jumping up and down, and many “Cheers! Salutes!” are had by normal, intelligent, rational people across America!!! 🍻🥃🍷🍸

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      • 🤣 I was telling my g/f (Qin) how I kept my “volumes and volumes” down to only FOUR paragraphs!!! She was SO PROUD of me Nan!!! 🤭

        She has often told me, when we get into long, extensive complex discussions, that I “make a big, BIG circle (she stretches out her hand as far as possible to make a circle as big as the Sun! LOL) to explain/say EVERYTHING to make a simple point!” When she gets lost she makes that motion. 😄

        Four paragraphs Nan, on a subject like this, is very, VERY good for me! 😉 ❤️

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        • I have a huge problem with what you say, PT, and not just you, but all believers in democracy. The biggest problem is that democracy does not work! Yell and scream all you want, but for all you have to say, it is democracy that allows tyrants like Trumpelstiltskin to not only exist, but even come to power. Do not blame the non-voters of America for Trump, blame the voters.
          Just like anyone can vote, even if they have no idea who they are voting for and why, also anyone can run for office. There is no standard to be met to what makes any candidate a viable option. The main catchphrase that burns me up is having to choose between the lesser of two evils! Every democratic election process in the world is a contest between two or more horrible choices. Why? People who run for office are not truly interested in doing what is best for the common good, but rather in telling people how to live in their opinions. For one thing, being a politician is a well-paid job, with a fantastic pension plan, for next-to-nothing labourwise. It attracts lazy people. It attracts opinionated people. But worst of all, it attracts people who firmly believe they know how everyone else should live. Not how they should live, 99% of politicians believe themselves to be above the law, but they want to make sure everyone else lives according to the laws they or their cronies make.
          Good people do not run for office. Power-mad people do!
          Of all the politicians I have met and talked to over my 71 years of life, I met only 1 person who was truly interested in others before himself. He even managed to get himself elected, but when he took his seat as a rookie law-maker, he discovered he was a sheep in a government full of wolves. They ate him up and spit him out before he could complete his first term. He was one who was dedicated to discovering what was best for everyone, but no one else in the government cared about his concerns, they cared about themselves first, their families second, and their friends third. Common people were way down their lists.
          Sad to say he ended up in a loony bin for many years, his beliefs in helping others totally destroyed. That is a true story.
          There is no place in government for good people. Democracy destroys good people.
          There is a lot more I could say, but I will just repeat myself, democracy does not work, and never will. Responsible Anarchy is the only thing that will, but nobody wants to hear it. We humans seem to believe we need to be governed, but who is governing the governers? No one.

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          • IMO, you make some excellent points. Certainly, some of what you say arouses negativism within many of us, but if we’re honest, it’s difficult not to find some agreement.

            Probably the primary point you make that carries the most truth is this: the people in government care about themselves first, their families second, and their friends third. Even so, we like/want to believe the people we elect are looking out for our best interests. Regrettably, it is rarely so.

            Nevertheless, this is the way it is and at this point in time, it’s all we have. Perhaps someday the human spirit will mature beyond the point of childish me-me-me thinking and put a more mature and responsible government in place. However, I doubt most of us will be around to enjoy it.

            P.S. I cannot agree with your suggestion of “Responsible Anarchy.”

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            • No problem, Nan. I don’t expect to many to, yet! There is still a belief that people need to be governed, and Covid is showing us that is so. But if no one seeks something better, if no one promotes something better, it may never come about. I am but a voice in the wilderness, but I won’t go away, not even after I am dead. Someone will or has already heard, the torch will be passed. Democracy is a time-limited event. Life demands it disappear.
              Peace.

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          • Hi rawgod,

            I do appreciate your candor about how democracy has increasingly struggled in the U.S. since, well… the American Civil War, and in some cases it has failed on several levels. In fact, I agree with several of your negative assessments of it. 🙂 Being a realistic optimist as I am, like you I do not sugarcoat events or current conditions in our entire political system. So perhaps you and I do NOT have “a huge problem” in what we say. However, you’ve brought up some good points addressing what I initially stated that might need further clarification on my part. But first I want to say how sorry and disappointed I am about your (friend?) “rookie law-maker, [who] discovered he was a sheep in a government full of wolves.” And I am deeply sorry he later found himself in a mental-health facility. I do hope he has recovered and doing well.

            Today, when we equitably look back over the history of human civilizations it is quite easy to find an entire warehouse full of tyrannical leaders and governments who abused, mistreated, tortured, and murdered their own subjects/citizens, even countries setup as “democracies.” Hindsight is and always will be 20/20. But just because democracy is struggling (bad?) or falling apart in the U.S. doesn’t mean it is happening in all other democratic nations around the world. As some examples of 2019 stable, democratic nations—or versions of democracy—that according to the EIU are doing much better than the U.S. from best to worst are…

            #1. Norway
            #2. Iceland
            #3. Sweden
            #4. New Zealand
            #5. Finland
            #6. Ireland
            #7. Denmark
            #8. Canada
            #9. Australia
            #10. Switzerland

            #25. United States

            #75. Hong Kong and Singapore (Flawed democracies)

            #167. North Korea (Full Authoritarian)*

            Out of the EIU’s 167 monitored nations, that Top 10 are the current models of excellence for “the greater good.” The United States could learn a lot from those 10-nations, even the top 15-nations! My point is there’s no reason YET to throw the babies out with the bathwaters as the idiom goes. Yes, the U.S. is doing a very poor job and has been since at least the post-WW2 decade, but she is still salvageable with the proper, best government officials elected who have INCREDIBLY thick skin and stoic composures and demeanors to take both the rewarding and/or the offensive aspects of public office that ALL democratic officials put themselves through while serving. It is by no means a cake-walk for anyone! It does require a seemingly contradictory personality of unshakeable self-esteem & confidence as well as philanthropic compassion, empathy, and always seeking to SERVE the American people legally and with upmost integrity & honor. There’s no way in HELL I can do that job. 😄

            That said rawgod, I do understand and appreciate your obvious frustration with democracy. I am happy to hear/read what system today you feel would be better? Are there any current examples of your ideal government you can share?

            Personally, I only know of one or two government systems that are clearly working better than the U.S.’s system: Social democracies and Direct democracies with a few of those nations utilizing the Nordic Economic Model. I think the U.S. could most definitely learn a lot from those nations and incorporate the best functioning parts of those models into our democracy. However, I know of no other existing government system in the world that is working above and beyond Federation/Republic democracies and Social/Direct democracies. This would be a very interesting discussion rawgod, one that would be productive. Yes? 😉

            * – Source: https://www.eiu.com/n/solutions/country-analysis/

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            • Hey, PT, at least you are willing to discuss this. Most people are not.
              I cannot properly give you a description of my idea of a perfect government, because it is not government. And we are nowhere close to being there. What is needed is a far-forward look at an evolving humanity, people learning how to be responsible not only for themselves, but for all living beings. What they will come up with I can only try to imagine. What I imagine is people who govern themselves in a manner responsible not only to themselves, or some imaginary god or other authority, but to life itself. We currently see life as something each living being has individually, no matter the species or kingdom. Yet while individuals are born, and die or are killed, life is always there. We, the beings of today, do not honour that. But one day, if we do not destroy all life, we will come to realize we are all one great being living in separate bodies. Not individuals at all.
              This will probably sound esoteric to you, something… something our of the minds of the insane. But it is not. No one believes me to be insane, yet this is what I find when I look deep inside myself, back to the time when all life was one-celled or even earlier, before life ever had any kind of body at all.
              But it did take on bodies, and those bodies took on the belief they were all separate. Science tells us all things are circular, but one must look at the cosmos itself to see the biggest circle of all, from one life, not conscious of itself, to many lives only conscious of themselves, to the time when we are only one life again, and still conscious of ourself.
              This is not something that will come about not because I say it will, I am only a person who sees where the circle is going. And it is only one outcome of many, many possibilities. And yet, it is presently the strongest possibility of all. The entire past of the cosmos has always been heading there, if only you allow yourself to look.
              And that is all I ask of anyone, to look.
              Peace.
              Thanks for listening.

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  5. Happy Election Day, y’all.

    I recall arguments and discussions going back to the 60s. As I look back over the decades, I have been “interested” in government and politics all my adult life. Some of my opinions have matured with time, but none drastically without the benefit of hindsight.

    I was never as disappointed and shocked as I was four years ago. I have never been as embarrassed or ashamed as I am now. I feel patriotically conflicted.

    I have not voted for a candidate outside of my preferred party in many years. I have in the past and regretted it every time (that I can remember). This year interest and turnout seem high. So are my hopes.

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  6. Have to confess that there is nothing, nothing I repeat, that would make me vote for a national or state level Republican right now. Most local elections are purportedly nonpartisan, so I look to who the endorsements come from to guide my local votes.

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  7. Those countries that you list up there, PT, if you notice, are all lowpop, self contained countries. Even Canada, for all it’s size, is still very low population. I think that might have a lot to do with it. The larger a country becomes, the harder it is to manage it as a unit.

    We may find ourselves in years to come, becoming two–or even four–separate but ‘common’ countries, each with their own Governor General, or President, and each, if it’s split up the way I see it, would end up with one large population center and all the rest less congested. It’s doable, although I suspect a lot of people would be horrified to hear of it.

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  8. I agree. I’m pretty interested in politics myself, because my family is, I guess. I think if you don’t follow politics you pretty much deserve the government you get. But I can understand why many people find politics boring, confusing and dispiriting.

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  9. I agree I also feel that neutrality can be misinterpreted as disinterest.
    There is a kingdom that the Bible speaks of that will never be brought to ruin and all those on the earth will be more than interested. I guess we all may just have to wait for that wonderful day. I Appreciate your thoughts

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    • Hello wcwhitfield. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. You know, of course that your reference to the bible and a future “wonderful day” is simply wishful thinking, right? And while politics and all its (frequently ugly) side-trappings often disturb and upset us, there simply is no “escape hatch.”

      Best wishes to you on your new blog.

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      • Does this mean you are not a believer in the Bible? Many Christians find their “escape hatch” to be their faith and dedication to God and his word that has predicted the things that are happening even to this day. My faith carries me daily and allows me to keep pushing thru this world with endurance. Romans 15:4. But if you’re not a bible reader I do understand your disbelief. Thanks for your thoughts

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        • Merry Holiday, wcwhitfield! 🎄🎅

          No, I’m not a bible believer. If you read my “home” page of this blog, it outlines my position as related to Christianity and the bible. My outlook has not changed.

          To me, we are our own masters. When we find it necessary to depend on an unseen entity and a several thousand year old book to get through life, we are denying our own individuality and strength. And that’s sad.

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  10. Nice article. Political apathy is fine until one day they come for you. Many in Britain are finding this out now, with Brexit ruining their livelihoods, they wish they’d taken an interest back in 2016. Luckily for me I was brought up to care about politics although never forced. As I get older I feel my eyes opening wider to the injustices of the world, and the political solutions screaming out for action. Stay safe, keep posting.

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    • Thank you for the compliment, Owen! And thank you for stopping by and joining our little group.

      I admit the somewhat rabid interest I’ve had in politics over the past four years will most likely diminish to some extent. But it won’t leave entirely. I recognize the importance in staying involved lest another crazy man tries to become our leader!

      I look forward to future contributions from you.

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