66 thoughts on “Guilty of Death?

  1. Un….effing….real! but there isn’t a systemic problem in the way police deal with black folks, right?! Un….effing….real!!!!! No WAY in hell did they need to kill this dude!! WTF!!!!! If that guy were white, no WAY would they have treated him this way. God effin dammit!!! This crap SERIOUSLY pisses me off!!

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  2. On Faux News Judge Napolitano said this: If the police reasonably believed that the person running from them poses a mortal threat to them by using the taser that he took from the cop, they can use deadly force to subdue him.”

    “Mortal threat” from a taser while the user was running in the opposite direction?

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    • I bet if it were a posh white dude running away with said taser, he would NOT have been killed. Napolitano shows us just what an immoral, piece of crud human she is every time she opens her mouth. Would she say the same thing if this had been done to her son or brother? Would she? No effing way! Hypocrites and immoral creatures work for Satan’s favorite network, Fox News.

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      • As someone who’s had a DUI, I can say not only was I not handcuffed but the police officer sat me in the back of my car and then sat next to me to ask me questions, then called me a taxi and then stayed around to make sure I was alright while waiting for the taxi.

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        • Yep. One time, several years back, I got a prescription for Ambien and, when I found out I got buzzed by taking it, I took way to much of it and began hallucinating. I was seeing clowns coming out of my walls so I called the police to come help me. The cops came to my apartment and I was a ranting, very white, mind you, paranoid, drugged up mess. I was pointing to things that weren’t there shouting at the cops to shoot them! I was not handcuffed, roughed up, or treated badly in any way. I was gently taken into a police car and, like you, a cop sat in the back with me while I was driven to a hospital were I stayed a few days under caring observation. When the drug finally wore off, not only was I embarrassed, I was very grateful I was in a hospital and not a jail cell–I mean, I was ranting and out of my head when these cops came to my place. Had I been black, I’ve absolutely no doubt I would have been handcuffed, probably roughed up, and taken to jail rather than a hospital, or, I may well have been shot as I’m a big guy and very imposing, especially when ranting about clowns coming out of my walls and demanding cops to shoot them. Oh, and in case you’re wondering, I’ve never taken Ambien again. Weed works much better anyway. 🙂

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    • And the strange fact that black people are the most church filling folks. Yet, all these years J hasn’t shown much mercy on ém. From the days of being farm animals to the times of being shot on the streets, after being stereotyped as uncivilized and barbaric set of people, the blacks have no salvation even in this life.

      Then, one wonders, what keeps them swinging to Hallelujah and the Praise the Lord?!

      The blonde, blue eyed, super white Aryan lord with a six pack- yes a visible gym toned muscular lordship – watches either helplessly from the cross or feels indifferent to the dark skinned humans perhaps.

      The sham of religion still stays among those who shoot and those who get shot.

      Human design flaw perhaps?!…

      My apologies for this outrage; but cant help and bring out the falseness of religions and their exposure in treatment of humans considered unworthy.

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  3. My question, why were the cops rousting this person for half a bloody hour? There was no reason for that to begin with. It was like a game of cat and mouse, designed to set Brooks up for failure.The cop wasn’t just doing his job, 5 minutes were all that was needed to send him on his way. No, he wanted to create a situation, and when he did, he took the easy way out. Bang bang. They shot him down.

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    • You nailed it, rawgod! That’s exactly my point. Not only did he put the guy through a ton of unnecessary “checks,” the guy PASSED THEM ALL!!!! Eyes followed the light. No falling when on one foot. No staggering when heel to toe. And even though his story wandered a bit, he didn’t SLUR through any of it.

      There’s just SO MUCH wrong with this whole scenario!

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  4. There are all sorts of justified approaches of reforms to the OBVIOUS UNDENIABLE systemic problem (cancer?) our police forces have—and have had for many decades—with non-lethal restraint of unarmed suspects, generally speaking. Every suspect/law-enforcement situation is different with past and present variables influencing those unique suspect/law-enforcement interventions. That said, there are indeed general Rules of Engagement extrapolated from our U.S. Constitution. They are scaled up or down for various levels of the suspect’s resistance to arrest. The appropriate and inappropriate Uses of Reasonable Force or Deadly Force are relative to and dictated by state laws.* There is where police force reforms must take place.

    Unfortunately, that is where police reforms will get dragged out, messy and heated. The historically racist states in the U.S., where white establishment is and has been firmly entrenched for many decades, will be the most ugliest reformations won. But it must be done.

    Regarding Rayshard Brooks’ case, the Wall Street Journal reports:

    A copy of Officer Garrett Rolfe’s disciplinary history, released by the Atlanta Police Department late Monday, listed 12 incidents. They include four citizens complaints, five vehicle accidents and a firearm discharge over his seven-year stint with the department before his encounter with Mr. Brooks.

    This unacceptable behavior and performance by Officer Rolfe is precisely where major reforms have to take place! Twelve incidents are more than sufficient evidence Mr. Rolfe required more extensive training and possibly/probably mental-health or illness therapy/counseling. I guarantee he has diagnosable behavioral, emotional, and/or mental problems (dysfunctions) by a licensed, experienced psychological or psychiatric doctor. And mental-health education, training, and integration into Rules of Engagement are horribly lacking in our police departments in every major and minor city across America! These repeating police brutalities and murders bear witness to it.

    Thank you for sharing this Nan. 🙂

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    * — Source:

    Click to access PoliceandtheUseofForce.pdf

    The Constitutional Rights Foundation, the Web Site and link above is produced by the Constitutional Rights Foundation. It is a public interest or advocacy organization, is part of the Library of Congress September 11 Web Archive and preserves the web expressions of individuals, groups, the press and institutions in the United States and from around the world in the aftermath of the attacks in the United States on September 11, 2001.

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      • Just passing on an invaluable resource (the Constitutional Rights Foundation) I had while teaching middle school Social Studies/History. And I’ve always been a huge advocate for more and more mental-health/illness education and awareness across all sectors of American society, and certainly in law-enforcement! :/

        I tell ya Jeff, those outstanding police officers who GET IT, who know well what “proportional use of force” means and understands its critical and appropriate implementation in police interventions… do not get paid near enough for the job and risks they face every day/night they are on duty, or OFF DUTY for that matter! Pffffttt. Care to guess what political party in the U.S. hampers and disables excellent law-enforcement training and pay, or rather poor, lacking training and pay? Hint: they are the party who HATE to pay more or their necessary fair-share taxes for improved public programs, staffing, and safety. 😉

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  5. After watching the relevant parts of the video several times my question is this: It seemed the bloke was worse the wear for drink, but not that obvious, and although it was really odd that he struggled when the cuffs were produced – as he knew what was about to happen, why the hell did the episode take so farking long, for chrissake?

    Just tell the bloke he seems under the influence, breathalyse him, and book him for DUI. End of farking story. Five minutes tops.
    Who dies at the hands of the police for falling asleep in your own farking car just because he had too much to drink?

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    • And Ark, in all 50 states—if they are to be a compliant member of the UNITED States of America’s federal Constitution and all its laws—criminal “suspects” (not indicted) being arrested are provided the right to Due Process in a court of law before a judge BEFORE being sentenced… that certainly includes being sentenced to death prior to any Due Process has begun.

      Our critical problem of disproportionate force (murder) by local police is the fact that in many states the state laws do provide officers the protection and use of lethal force if they believe their own life is in mortal danger or that of other innocent bystanders are in mortal danger. See where the terrible problems lie? Every state and every local police departments have different interpretations of the appropriate Rules of Engagement and either the use of Reasonable Force or Deadly Force. Individual states have a lot of blurry grey-areas of subjective interpretation of those rules/laws.

      It is only because of the advent of phone-cams and police cams that the blatant ABUSE of those grey-areas have revealed (thankfully) decades even centuries of unlawful police violence/murders. At least now the violence/murders cannot be hidden under Good Ole Boy rugs and closets in the departments.

      Lots of reform-work for Americans to do and it isn’t going to be easy.

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  6. The system of testing wether a person is drunk driving as presented on the video seems ridiculously innefective and time consuming. How is it, that the US police have so much time to spend on such a futile discussion with the suspect? We have heard, that these ancient methods are still in use in the US, but I never thought, that they could be so ridiculous.

    Here in Finland, if the police suspect a person is drunk while operating a vehicle, the person has to take the blow test, or be arrested. if the breath tester shows they are drunk the person gets a fine and has to leave their vehicle and if they are totally drunk, so much so, that they can not take care of themselves, they are taken into police custody. The entire process does not take more than 5 minutes, tops.

    For me, coming from a different culture, it is very difficult to say if racism was involved, but what was obvious was a total lack of professionalism in the actions of the police. The police spoke in civil tones, but what was the purpose of the entire sherade of interrogation? To get a blind drunk dude to admit he is drunk? Who cares what the drunk say? They had an entire half an hour to throw at this one blatantly obviously drunk dude. I guess there were no other crimes to be solved at the time. They totally botched handcuffing him, and then right away shot him in the back, like some cowboy movie cowards. They shot an unarmed man in the back? Twice? Why? Did they discharge their weapons accidentally? Was it because they thought, it was OK for them to shoot the man because he was black, or because he resited being arrested, or what? Is there a wider culture of it being OK to shoot an unarmed person resisting arrest in the back, or is there a culture of it being OK to shoot a black man suspected of a crime? They did it in front of witnesses at this moment, when their entire country is flamed by police violence and especially against black people. Even if they were the most racist cops in the country, what they did was just so incredibly stupid…

    How incompetent can a police officer be to lose his taser to the customer? But they were not only incompetent, they were also guilty of manslaughter. A wanton use of firearms in a situation that really did not require it in any way from the point of how they should have handeled it, to where the dude almost slipped from their hands. Are US police so bad shots, that they automatically shoot at the main body mass instead of legs, like the police here mainly do? From behind? Also, I wonder if it is typical, that the US police are so out of shape? I mean the only so fat cops (as almost every man jack of them on the video) I have ever seen anywhere – and I have been to a lot of countries – are typically over fifty and closing pension. But I guess they do not have to run down or wrestle suspects, when they can simply shoot them in the back.

    They claim he had a taser, but even if that is true, the use of the taser is supposed to be justified because it saves the police from using deadly force. Hence, the police were not facing deadly force, so how was it in their own minds justified to use deadly force against him? The other officer claimed, that the taser was shot at him once, before he opened fire, but tasers are only one or two shot devices. So the dude only had one go at him left at best and even if he did, the distance is not very far (less than 5 meters), it is curious, that they thought they had to use a gun (several shots) to subdue him. At 5 meters any person worthy to carry a gun should be able to hit a leg. I do not care about their own excuses for what happened, because if I were them, the only defence I could come up was, that they were not trained to deal in a situation where they have to make an arrest. Talk about trigger happy.

    I am sorry, that this is long, but I am angry.

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    • Hi, Rautakky, realize I must sound like an apologist for the police here. I don’t mean to be. There are times when they are clearly in the wrong, and no one argues that reform is needed.

      At the sametime, these women and men put their lives on the line everyday to “serve and protect.” I was once friends with a woman who was the wife of a police officer. Some days she worried and wondered if her husband would come home at the end of his shift. You couldn’t pay me enough to do the job. I used to have to go out with them when I worked in Child Welfare. And, you can be sure I was more than glad of their support and protection. They helped us save kids and support families.

      You know in a tense and moving situation, it is not always easy to strike someone in the leg. And, on top of that, shooting someone in the leg especially if they are crazed or high on drugs may not immediately incapacitate the person. They still have time to whip around and strike out with a weapon or a tazer that can completley immobilize. Decisions are made in a split second.

      These officers have families. They want to go home at night. And, they are also concerned to protect the innocent bystanders as well.

      As I’ve said, rather than to defund the police, we need to support them with the best training, and do everything possible to attract the “cream of the crop.”

      Right now I imagine they are feeling totally demoralized. Officers, black and white are being randomly assaulted even murdered.

      What do you suppose is going to happen with the crime rate in some of our larger cities this summer?The criminal element is about to have a field day.

      It’s the innocent, law-abiding, often minority citizens that are going to actually suffer the most.

      Also, if the message is sent that the way to effect change is by rioting, burning, and looting, what kind of message does this send especially to young people? We have more young black men in prison than in college today as it is.

      I realize that no one here is advocating for this, but I’ve read some who do. It’ s beyond sad.

      Prayers and right and just action is needed.

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      • The bloke was drunk. The police should have breathalyzed him and booked him for DUI.
        Even allowing for niceties the entire process could have been resolved within ten minutes.

        An unarmed man died – was shot to death – simply because he was inebriated and the police could not handle the situation. Do you truly understand the magnitude of this crime?
        So, yes, you do sound like a whining apologist.

        Prayers and right and just action is needed.

        Prayers? Really? This just demonstrates you are an ignorant, stupid fool.

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      • Becky, I do think, I see your point. I too have a friend who is a police officer. A detective no less, who has once been shot and wounded while on duty.

        However, to me the fault of what happens on the video lies in politicians who have not made it sure, that the US police get a proper training instead of some 3-6 month course. The thing is, that a trained police officer can handle their weapons professionally and not end up shooting a practically unarmed man in the back. it is not too much to ask. If an accident happens, it is not two bullets in the back of a suspect. That is unforgivable necligence of firearms use at best and a proper murder at worst.

        I also blame a society, that sets such great economical imbalance between people, for the benefit of the few at the expense of many, that some people are born into a social class where they constantly and almost uniformly feel like they are trearted as less by the very officials who are supposed to be out there to serve and protect them. The fact, that the pariah class is most often been recognized by the most arbitrary measure imaginable, that is their skin colour makes it even worse.

        Rioting is a result of decades of abuse of the rights of people. No, they are not the proper response to police violence, but they are as much the result of the society providing people with proper education, actual opportunities, hope and equality, as they are of failed, poor and evidently often racist policing.

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        • While you make good points, the statistical reality is that being a police officer, on average, is by no means the most dangerous profession. Compare it to working in a slaughterhouse-a horrific place with plenty of flashing knives, rivers of blood, and eternal pressure! pressure! pressure! to speed the processing line up. A business that people of Becky’s conservative political persuasions are convinced needs less government oversight and fewer regulations! Because profit is the real religion of the American right-and the evangelical “church”.

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          • Whoa, hold on here, Basen, I’m certainly not opposed to safety regulations for slaughterhouses

            . Also, I’m not part of the religious right or a conservative evangelical church. I’m certainly not happy to see anyone killed.

            My whole profession was to save lives, and to want to make things better.

            Folks for the record in general, I’m not a fool or an idiot as Ark would claim. I’m not a masochist, a troll, or a whiner either.

            You may not agree with my views, but I”ve come to them with a great deal of thought. I’m also open to change if I’m proven wrong. And, I’ll engage in thoughtful discussion with anyone, but not trade insults.

            Good grief!

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            • Becky, while I generally don’t agree with your viewpoints, I do appreciate that you stay relatively even-handed in your remarks.

              Naturally, I can’t control what other people write in the comments (unless they defy my blog rules) — and as you’ve noticed, some are more “pointed” in their remarks than others. Even so, you seem to hold up well under the circumstances. I hope you will continue to contribute as I think it’s good to have healthy discussions — even when we’re on different sides of the fence.

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            • I understand Nan, appreciate talking with you as well, and receiving good pushback. Apology totally accepted Basen. Emotions are running high around all these issues right now.

              I was curious to get input in where I would land on the political spectrum so I took some of those quizes on line. I usually come out as more libertarian close to the midline between conservative and progressive libertarian.

              My mind always runs toward personal freedom and liberty rather than toward alot of govt. intervention or control, and also the importance of the free market. I would totally oppose economic socialism.

              But, Basen, your comment concerning the slaughter houses caused me to think more deeply as a Christian believer how this strong tendency could also become like an idolotry in my life. Should this freedom and lack of govt. control be elevated over human lives such as in the situation you mentioned in the slaughter houses? Where is the healthy and reasonable balance?

              So, appreciate your pushback/feedback as well, Basen.

              Pax.

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  7. I watched a segment on CNN featuring an interview with an African-American police officer who was also a police chief. He felt that this case was very different than the Floyd case. The suspect had grabbed the officer’s taser and attempted to shoot him with it. If he succeeded in striking the officer. He would have been totally incapacitated and the man could have had total access to his firearm. He explained that someone may have no more than two seconds to make these life and death decisions. What happened was a tragedy, and in retrospect could have been handled differently. But, I would not automatically conclude that the cop was racist, and part of the answer was to go out and torch Wendy’s.

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    • I do agree that torching Wendy’s was unjustified. However, to defend these cops, Becky, is NOT justified in any way, shape, or form — no matter how many friends and relatives you have in law enforcement.

      They messed with this guy for almost 30 minutesknowing he had been drinking. As others have said, the appropriate thing to have done would have immediately done the breathalyzer test and then arrested him.

      Even beyond that, many on social media questioned why didn’t the cops just take him to his sister’s house after he offered to walk there? THIS is the type of action that law enforcement officers might have taken if they were better trained. Of course, from all indications, this cop was a pure racist so all bets are off.

      Actually, when push comes to shove, it’s a little late to throw out “if” actions — on either side. The facts are that another black person is dead because of racist cops.

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      • Of course, from all indications, this cop was a pure racist so all bets are off.

        Okay … I’ll be that f***&%g guy. How do you know the incident was racially motivated and not simply gross incompetence?

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        • OK, and I’ll admit that you could be right. But why shoot the guy? Is that just “gross incompetence”? Further, from things I’ve read, this isn’t his first “gross incompetent” act.

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          • this isn’t his first “gross incompetent” act.

            Maybe so, and of course I’m not living in the US. However, it’s thin ice time if one automatically jumps on the racist bandwagon … just because.

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            • Not when it involves cops in the US shooting and killing a black dude like this. Cops here have worked VERY long and VERY hard over the decades here to earn their racist rep. Now, is it possible that this particular white cop who shot a fleeing black man, TWICE mind you, in the back and killed him was, in reality, a contributing member of the NAACP and a bleeding heart liberal who melts like a snowflake whenever he sees or hears of racial injustice in America? Yep. It sure is. ANYTHING is possible. Maybe he didn’t treat this guy differently just because he was black and he (the cop) was just a grossly incompetent ninny. Yeah. Maybe. But I friggin’ highly doubt it. I’ve seen this kinda racist crap my whole life growing up in a racially mixed area of Chicago. It’s a pattern. A consistent, systemic, never-ending pattern that has not remotely improved over the decades. In fact, it is getting worse. So, our cops here have earned their rep as being racists, and my deepest apologies to those few who’ve targeted and killed black guys who aren’t, but, systemically speaking, they’ve done NOTHING in all my years of living here to show me anything different or that they honestly even care to change.

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        • I would argue it may not be “racially motivated” but just the inevitable result of a culture of warrior cops exacerbated by the internalized racism of the killer cop and to a large extent cop culture. It was probably not even consciously racist act per se. The killer cop automatically assumes an attitude, a way of dealing with black men because of his underlying prejudices-and cop culture. Maybe this is splitting hairs, but…I doubt even this Bad Dude Cop thought “I’m going to kill a black guy today”.

          Plus incompetence.

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      • Sadly, it’s not TRAINING. Too many of us educated middle class people think education is a panacea (I am exaggerating your position somewhat for rhetorical value, so forgive me, but my point still holds). If it was the local megachurch pastor caught with a rent boy and cocaine, they would have treated him with kid gloves and probably allowed him the walk to the sister’s house. We all know why this is not the case here. 😦

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  8. Folks, people don’t have to be “bleeding heart liberals” to care about racial injustice. But, part of the difference I see is that when there is a questionable or unjust action between the police and a citizen of color, people who are more conservative or libertarian are not as likely to automatically assume it was purely racially motivated. They might think it has more to do with training, problems with the police unions, or even the behavior and manner of the suspect rather than his/her race, etc.

    I can only say that living or especially working in the inner city as a case worker, can also give a whole new perspective.

    I also think there are really good people on all sides of the political divide who can have very different ideas about everything from the appropriate response to Covid-19 to what to do about the high incidence of black on black crime in the inner city.

    How we can come together in all this is extremely difficult.

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    • It’s HIGHLY unlikely “we” will ever come together on this … or the many other issues facing this country … because (1) we have a leader that doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground yet thinks he has “great and unmatched wisdom,” and (2) there are people who are adamant that their viewpoint is the correct one and have no desire or intent to compromise.

      In order to find solutions to ANY problem, people must be willing to work together. However, when you have a “person-in-charge” that insists it’s his way or no way — and people that agree with him — any discussion or compromise is down the tubes from the start.

      You may think you have special insights because you worked “in the inner city” but something tells me it was not in down and dirty circumstances. Obviously, I wasn’t there, but your Kumbaya attitude makes me think you are living in a white-washed world.

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      • Nan, I’m definitely ready and willing to work together. On a micro level my church is pretty politically diverse, but we manage to come together, and work on some really useful outreach for the good of the community from the winter shelter for the homeless to a growing project to help bring fresh food to the hungry.

        But, here’s my honest opinion. The Democratic party on a local level has controlled many city govts. for decades, but, yet, where is the lasting change?

        I wish we had a viable third choice for the presidency, but we don’t. I personally have concerns connected with both candidates.

        The Trump administration, apart from all the rhetoric has funded money toward historically Black colleges, instituted needed prison reform, is now working to reform the police, has created opportunity zones in the city, and during his administration saw the lowest minority unemployment rate ever.

        I’m also very troubled with the support among some on the left, to “defund the police.” This would truly be a disaster for innocent, law-abiding people of color in the city.

        I think right now we are seeing a “mimetic effect” with folks just jumping on the bandwagon. I certainly think reform is needed, no question, but as I’ve shared I think more support and money is needed for the police, not less.

        Anyway, guess we’re talking this to death. But, as I’ve stated before, I have friends who I know are good people on all sides of this divide. We can continue to work together in these areas where we do agree.

        And, I think it’s important to talk together and to be open to each other. No one is infallible or has all the answers.

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    • I didn’t realize the topic was about “black on black crime” Becky.

      And who said you had to be a “bleeding heart liberal” to care about racial justice?

      What are the chances that the man sleeping in his car and is white, dies that night?

      You come across as though you are an expert because you worked in the inner city. Not everyone shares identifying information about their experiences and expertise on these blogs, but you keep talking about an inner city problem and you shift the focus not to black on black and oh let me see, what was the topic?

      A lot of people don’t give a shit about Covid-19 because it seems quite a few of your leaders don’t give a shit themselves. Where’s the leadership from your president and vice-president. Under those two leaders your country is an insane asylum right now. You should be in a panic.

      Becky, the officer shot at the man in the back as the man ran away. Then went over AND kicked him. Stop looking for away out of the racism discussion.

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      • Zoe, I’m not an expert. I did not mean to come across in this manner.

        For myself, I don’t have a lot of personal concern or fear about Covid. But, I know many people who do and because of their age or problems with their immunity are more vulnerable, so I want to respect them and take precautions.

        I do think it can be very difficult to judge what measures should be taken and weighed against the destruction of people’s lives and mental health from completely shutting down the economy or not reopening soon enough. Suicide and drug abuse are escalating. It’s more complex to me than money vs. people’s lives or something like that. Guess I’m really getting off-topic now. It does seem we are in the middle of a perfect storm right now between these racial tensions and COVID 19. But, I’m still optimistic and don’t panic easily.

        I’m personally glad that I’m not the one making some of these difficult choices and decisions. You and I are quite different, Zoe. But, I know that both you and Nan are very good and compassionate women. You will never be my enemies. Even though we hardly ever agree, I still respect both of you and consider your input valuable.

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        • Enemies? Where’d that come from?

          Well earlier you said your were upset and concerned, so pardon me re: panic but you certainly sounded panicky . . . with your kids considering moving out and OMG the riots and OMG the black on black and the inner city and . . .

          There’s nothing perfect about this storm.

          :/

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          • Well, Zoe, I’m certainly concerned. But, let’s face it our kids have their own mind. I’ve had more concerns about the schools my grandson attends in the center city even before all this. But, to my daughter-in-law this feels like home, and my step-son works and also has business concerns in the city as well.

            Since my grandson is bi-racial, his hair is wavy, with loose curls and beautiful. He used to wear it long, but he was bullied and mocked so tried to cut it himself. So sad. There’s racism on both sides of the divide.

            And, I definitely don’t like the idea of him attending a school when he’s older with police having to be stationed right in the building with metal detectors at the doors.

            Luckily, they have a beach home at the shore, so my daughter-in-law is able to take my grandson and have a respite from the situation. My husband and I plan to visit soon.

            But, my heart goes out to the hurting people who cannot get out of this chaotic environment at all.

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            • A beach home on the shore, huh? Hardly the type of living that most black people enjoy.

              It’s a proven fact that far too many “whities” think black people live in squalor simply because they don’t take advantage of the many “opportunities” (??) that are offered to them. Surely if they did, they too could have a beach home on the shore!

              You live in a white fairy-tale world, Becky … and the fact you have an African-American relative doesn’t change a thing.

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    • First, there is little that comes out of Faux News that is “wise and balanced.”

      However, this statement by Hardiman … It makes no sense to me if we continue to stand up against the system but we will not stand up in our own neighborhood goes back to much of what I’ve tried to get across.

      Sure, there’s violence in strictly black neighborhoods. And a big reason for that is the TYPE of neighborhood they are forced to live in. On the FEW occasions that someone with influence tries to step in and make improvements, the tune is the same … “black people don’t deserve help because look at the way they live!” It’s a vicious circle.

      Further, POC do not trust “whities” … I don’t think I need to spell out why … and this also plays a part.

      But none of this discounts the fact that there are HIGHLY prejudiced individuals in law enforcement that will take advantage of any and every situation to reduce the population of people they consider “different” from them.

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  9. On a related note, since the George Floyd story has become international news, it was reported even in our national news channel here in Finland, that the judge presiding over the case against the police officers involved, Peter Cahill, had said, that the court could possibly be held in some other city, than Minneapolis to insure that the accused get a fair trial because of the publicity the case has had. Is this a common practice in the US?

    I can not help, but wonder is the judge really up to the task, since he seems oblivious to the fact, that this case has gotten publicity all over the planet, not to mention any US city? What other city did he have in mind? They would have to move the court to Mars in hopes of finding a place, that has had no previous publicity over it, and even trying to do so, they would bring all the publicity with it to where ever they would have the trial. Could this judge be able to preside over any legal case, since he seems both oblivious to the fact, how social- or for that matter, any media works…

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    • Is this a common practice in the US?

      This is an occasional practice, but I would not call it “common”.

      … this case has gotten publicity all over the planet, not to mention any US city?

      I assume that the judge is well aware of this. Still, emotions might run higher in Minneapolis than elsewhere, so a change in venue is not totally absurd.

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