In The Beginning … God?

Christians claim absolute certainty that this world and the universe of which it is a part was brought into existence by an unseen supernatural entity.

Why do they believe this?

Because a several thousand year old book they refer to as “The Holy Bible” says so in its opening dialogue, i.e,  In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The questions that are never answered, however, are (1) who is God, and (2) who was there to witness this event?

Neither of these questions is answerable because the statement itself is called a “creation myth” —  a cultural, traditional or religious story describing the earliest beginnings of the present world. It is said creation myths are the most common form of myth, are found throughout human culture, and usually develop first in oral traditions.*

What is most fascinating about creation myths is they are frequently accepted as history, which is generally defined as “All that is remembered of the past.” Of course the question then becomes … if there were no human beings yet in existence, who was there to remember this event?

It has been commonly accepted throughout several centuries that the book in which this origination statement is made is “holy;” that is, belonging to, derived from or associated with a divine power, and as such, no matter its age or its contents, everything is factual or, at the very least, based on highly possible/probable happenings.

But this is fallacy.

To place credibility in such a story does not speak well of human reasoning powers. In fact, it demonstrates a complete lack of rational thinking. It is equivalent to a belief in fairies, unicorns, dragons, goblins, cyclops, gremlins, etc. — whose existence all came about through folklore. Such creatures were fabricated to thrill, terrify, entertain and, yes, even to inspire, much like the many and magical gods of the ancient past.

Yet rational, sane, and describably intelligent individuals will look you in the eye and without even the hint of a blink tell you this story is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Some will undoubtedly ask, if not a god, then how did this world/universe get its start? The most direct answer is “I don’t know. I wasn’t there.” But God-Believers will not accept that answer. To them, it’s all or nothing. Even though their “proof” is contained entirely in a book that wasn’t even in existence “in the beginning.”

The indisputable facts are this. We — NONE of us — know how this world began. Scientists/Cosmologists have their theories, but that’s all they are. They weren’t there at its origination any more than those who wrote the creation stories.

P.S. For anyone who’s interested, here is a link to the MANY ways people have traditionally explained the origin of earth and its life.


*A form of human communication wherein cultural material and tradition is transmitted orally from one generation to another.

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50 thoughts on “In The Beginning … God?

  1. Well the earth in the biblical sense is created before the universe. The earliest detection of that is Hubble deep space photos, where that light hitting the telescope was emitted 75 million years ago. That’s just barely more that 6000 years ago right? So I can’t answer your question, since things are out of order and the math doesn’t align with the Bible. You must be wrong.

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  2. I’ll just quote Steve Ruis here, for he said it oh-so-very well a few days ago:

    Steve Ruis:

    Uh, “we exist, the cosmos exists, which requires an ontological explanation.” WTF? We exist, which requires our acceptance because if we don’t accept that fact, we are heavily deluded. It does not require an ontological explanation and … even if it did, this does not mean we are in a position to develop one. There are a great many questions we are not ready to answer. Every age is confronted with them. Imagine asking someone from the 1840’s whether colour or black and white television was superior? Forcing answers is stupid. Claiming answers when we clearly are not ready to answer such questions (e.g. Are there aliens in other galaxies?) is the hallmark of a charlatan.

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  3. From that link’s Summation page (emphasis mine):

    The tremendous diversity of these [ancient] stories in their materials, characters, and themes suggests they developed independently, rather than being derived from one primeval story [Monism] told by the first human storytellers. The stories’ promotion of their tellers’ cultures and races, at the expense of others, likewise suggests independent development rather than common origin. By including what we would consider racism, sexism, violence, and exploitation of nature in their accounts of the origin of the world, storytellers may have inadvertently said much about human nature too.

    Despite their diversity, the great commonality of all these stories is a desire to explain the world and its history. Humans today have the same desire, and [today] they satisfy it with microscopes and telescopes, with satellites and seismographs, and with analysis of DNA [to name only very few]. Explanations developed millennia ago could not draw on such sophisticated technologies and so seem quaint today, and they were overprinted by the social and political agendas of their tellers, but they reflect the same human desire to understand the world around us.

    I am going to borrow some from Stephen Hawking’s Genius tv-series, episodes 4 and 5, if that’s okay Nan. 😉

    The Cosmos is an infinitely vast machine of chain-reactions. This includes your/our human bodies. [Hawking’s chain-reaction]-machine is actually a very simple version of what is going on inside your body. This is what you look like on a microscopic scale, and it really is quite incredible. Where my machine features dominoes and pool balls, your body has molecules, chains of atoms of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, and other elements. You are made of billions of tiny machines, all triggering each other. You are a giant chain reaction machine. Discovering this has taken [many] centuries of work by scientists. It all began by looking at a drop of water [in the middle of the 17th century by Antonie van Leeuwenhoek].

    If there is enough energy impulses for these machines to loop and loop and loop, they will continue indefinitely if their are no disasters. However, and unfortunately, the minute something is wrong, even by, say, 1/16 of an inch, it’s not happening. In the real world and Universe, mistakes [by God?] are eventually made. “And if there are enough of them, the machine stops.” Nan, Hawking next goes into how thousands or millions of various molecular combinations, positive-negative polarities, and substances of almost infinite compositions, including amino-acids, the building blocks of life — This is only about 5-10 mins of a 1-hr episode 5. 😮

    Episode 4, Where Did the Universe Come From?, is even more fascinating and mind-blowing. By understanding Hubble and his telescope, the Doppler-effect, and the newest Big Bang Theory, it concludes like this:

    Genius volunteer:
    So seemingly being able to make any point at the center of the universe, we start to slowly reject the idea that we’re gonna find a point in space that is the center of the universe. And that’s when I start thinking any single point could be the center. I believe that this machine is telling us that the middle of the universe is a matter of our perspective.

    Hawking:
    Everywhere is the center of the universe because it all came into existence at the same time, and it’s all moving away from everywhere at the same time [energy impulses/explosions everywhere]. Space didn’t exist before the Big Bang. Now space is expanding in all directions, and these simple facts mean wherever you are in the universe, it’s the center, where it all began.

    I am very comfortable with these theories and what they reveal about life, us humans, and where and how it all began! 🤩

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    • Yep. And if one is OPEN-MINDED and not totally corrupted in their thinking by “ontological” and religious theories, they can readily see there is more — much more — to the origination story than what is presented in their “Holy Book.”

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      • Totally agree Nan! I also am a little fond of how Hawking’s last sentence up there “Now space is expanding in all directions…” goes against one single point (Monism) and leans toward Pluralism, Perspective, and forms of Subjective Observation-Measurements… at least at this point in time in human evolution. 😀👏

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      • Absolutely. The real story is so much more than these silly ancient mythological beliefs. It’s like a little gully in your backyard compared to the Grand Canyon.

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      • Oh STOP IT Scottie. 🙄😏 We each have our superpowers to share, give, and refine for this life and others! I’ve already noticed how far YOU’VE come along in all these blog-discussions — you are asking great questions and offering great exchanges! Besides, you already had your huge wonderful warm heart for life and others! That’s a LOT MORE than many have or are losing. :/

        And btw, I’m only learning from many, many other great minds… past and present, so I cannot take much credit. But thank you for your kind words. Hugs for you too. ❤

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    • I felt this quote from another post was right with you sir “I live on Earth at present, and I don’t know what I am. I know that I am not a category. I am not a thing—a noun. I seem to be a verb, an evolutionary process—an integral function of the universe.” Buckminster Fuller

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  4. I wonder sometimes, Nan, if many people just want a simple explanation. One which requires no deep thought, no having to probe scientific explanations, no wrapping one’s mind around complex subjects or having to challenge anything one has previously assumed. In that respect, ‘Goddidit’ satisfies the requirement. It’s a pat answer which is so acceptable to the masses that most people cannot even contemplate any other line of thought. It’s odd, though, that so few people are willing to admit that belief in a god is akin – as you say – to belief in every other imaginary ‘being’. 😦

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    • You make a good point, Carmen. I sometimes think many humans (Christians in particular) never leave their “childhood thinking.” You know … fairies and goblins and elves are “real” when you’re young, so who’s to say they aren’t just as real today? Just because you can’t see them (or “God”), doesn’t mean they’re not there. Right?

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      • I think it is tied the psychological need for a father figure. .. it’s a comforting thought and yes – like so many other aspects of our psyche – stems from our childhood. (I’m digging deep here; psychology classes were awhile ago) 🙂

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          • I had a shitty father, Prof. Is it any wonder that I gravitated to a charismatic minister in the early 80’s? It’s no coincidence that so many women are attracted to men they perceive as good, kind, and patriarchal. Those of us who had effed up childhoods are putty in their hands. :(. Of course, I see that all now – at the age of 60.

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            • Ugh, Carmen, I can’t tell you how many women throughout my life I’ve dated, two that I married then divorced me, that had “shitty fathers,” bad or abusive boyfriends or husbands. Too many to count. 😦 I read an article the other day about how badly sexual assault and rape cases (on women) and their test kits from victims from ALL MAJOR CITIES in the U.S. go untouched and untested!!! 😨😡 And do I need to mention how many women have been too afraid to report assault/rape over the decades and centuries!?

              I’m pretty convinced that if civilizations had been equally ruled or mostly ruled by women instead of the often inferior gender, the Neanderthals… this planet would be a TOTALLY different, better place right now! Happy you are empowered now Carmen. 🙂 ❤

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    • Very well said, Carmen! I belonged to the — many people that just want a simple explanation —. But why, why did I not accept that explanation from the outset? When did that take place, probably at the age of 6,7 in Sunday School. Why did the simple tale of Adam and Eve seem strange to me at once? Was that how life started? In paradise and then, a thunderbolt out of the blue:and a wrathful voice, “Out! You sinners, get lost. You will bear your children with pain, and they and all their descendants will be damned forever”. From one moment to the next, unforgiven sinners. – I beg your pardon?

      So it will be easy to imagine my thoughts on the following histories, the Flood, the Red Sea, the Resurrection and other miracles of Jesus Christ, presented to me in “Biblical Tales for Children”, Now, eighty years later,.that nicely narrated and illustrated book is still in my possession, For memory’s sake, I guess. The only gift from my parents that I have preserved?

      But let me not digress, I lwould so much hear an explication of why did I not, for one moment, swallow those simple descriptions, and why do I feel allright being unable to give an answer?
      Greetings.
      .-

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    • I think deep thinking overtaxes a lot of people’s brains and you can see their eyes just glaze over. I’ve always loved cosmology and some of the metaphysical musings and time and space and for some reason, the ancestor simulation theories (Nick Bostrom), but I know no one I can discuss these ideas with. Most people have little interest. So glad I found you guys!

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  5. I remember at around age of 11 or 12, my pastor encouraged me to read the bible. And I was supposed to take it as true.

    I got about as far as Genesis 1:4, where it indicated that night and day are independent of the sun. So much for it being true.

    However, I did see the text as having literary value. So I took it to be a true rendition of an ancient pre-scientific attempt to describe the world.

    Somehow many Christians seem unable to come to that kind of understanding.

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  6. To whom was God speaking when She said “Let there be light”?

    Again the argument goes—

    “But Argus … everything has to have been created, to have had a beginning somewhere! Sheesh~!”

    “Everything?”

    “Everything! End of story, no exceptions!”

    “God too?”

    Oink … glop … “Oh! You’re just being picky! Semantics!”

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  7. For anyone actually considering that point, let me answer—

    God created everything qua Everything. But who created God?

    Answer: a Godier God created the Creator God. So there!

    Okaaaaaayyyyy — who created that Godier God?

    Answer: A Godier God than that Godier God (who created the Prime-mover First Cause God). So there!

    Okaaaaaayyyyy — who created that more Godier God? Was it a more Godier God yet?

    Answer: of course! Took you long enough you dum dog … sheesh … and before you ask agian, it’s an infinite progression, backwards! (So there.)

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