And Still There Are No Gods

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at the beginning of mankind
the gods lived across the river
too wide for us to cross …
then we learned to cross the river
there were no gods …

then we thought the gods lived
deep in the forests
too big and dense for us to explore …
but then we learned to do that
there were no gods …

then we thought the gods lived
in the highest trees
too high for us to climb …
then we climbed the highest trees
there were no gods …

so then we thought the gods resided
on top of the highest mountains
too high and dangerous for us to climb …
and yet we also learned that at the end
there were no gods …

so we thought the gods lived in
and over the clouds
too high for us to ever reach …
till we learned to fly and
there were no gods …

so we moved the gods beyond the skies
until we traveled out into to space…

… and still there are no gods …

–author unknown

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49 thoughts on “And Still There Are No Gods

  1. Ah. See, gods live in an invisible, spaceless, timeless realm that has always been and will always be. Since such a place, if we can truly call such a place a “place”, can not be entered or seen by humans, you must simply trust, or have “faith”, that such a a “place” exists and gods are hangin’ out there. If you don’t believe this, you’re wrong. See? I hope this helps clarify things for you. Have a pleasant day, and remember, it’s always warmer in the woods than it is in the winter. $Amen$

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  2. Just sat down to listen to god talking inside me and I got a radio broadcast from the Andromeda galaxy, some kind of sporting event involving dwarf whales and beach balls. Gonna try this again with my head wrapped in aluminum foil to keep out the alien broadcasts. This last one gave me a headache.

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  3. As a child, I was taught the Christian Ten Commandments, and as a matter of course, kept silent about them. But when I was about 14, one day I thought them over and concluded that only three of them, namely the ones not to murder, not to steal and not to lie, were acceptable; of the remaining instructions, I didn’t understand a word – later on, when I thought I understood, I found them nonsense. No other gods (so there is more than one god?); do not take “my name” (excuse me, who are you?) in vain; keep the Sabbath holy (what the heck is holy?); honor your father and mother (why should I not; but is it also natural to do so if they themselves don’t behave like parents?); no adultery (no problem, for the moment :-)).
    Apparently, there are many millions of people who do not even question those instructions, and there doesn’t seem to be any indication that many of them might change their minds anytime soon – unless they do so at a very early stage.

    I think there will always be two frames of mind. That is a good thing in itself; the bad aspect however is that they refuse to live together, and the past nearly 2000 years have shown one world conflict after the other, with almost no improvement. Certainly there are many more unbelievers now than before cience began to come up with evidence. But the large mayority still is a (too) powerful force, and very few minds are even willing to be opened.

    My apologies for this long post. I will end it with an aphorism that I read somewhere; I wonder if it can be applied to this matter of scepticism. You might want to replace “learning” by “questioning”:
    If you really don’t want to learn, nobody can help you;
    If you honestly want to learn, nobody can stop you. .-

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    • Federico … NEVER apologize for a long comment. Generally speaking, they are the best kind (except when written by a campaigner for christ.) 😉

      The 10 Commandments. How few “Christians” follow them.

      I love the aphorism! So much truth.

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    • Actually, Koppieop, Jerry Springer sums up the whole ‘Ten’ experience in the line with which he closes his show: “Be good to yourself, and each other.”

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  4. Nan,
    You live in a box.
    God does not.
    He made you and the box.
    Nothing inside your box confirms there is a God as far as you can see.
    All the Laws and rules of the box apply to you, but not God.
    Nothing inside your box can measure, evaluate, point to what or whom may be on the outside.
    Does that mean God does not exist?

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  5. CCT: Either inside or outside that box, we can only see ourselves. My unbelief in (your) god – thank you Carmen, for the brackets – is not because I don’t see him, but because there is nothing that leads me to look for one. My driving force are things or thoughts that make me think. Ah, (your) god is said to be omnipresent, so shouldn’t he be inside as well as outside of that box? By the way, can you please explain what (kind of) box you are referring to?

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  6. This poem could read almost like a child asking a parent to check for monsters. “Across the river? No. In the forest? No.”

    You even get someone insisting that although you can’t have any indication it’s there, it must be really there. Right next to the pink unicorn farting out your favorite candy.

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  7. Nan: From the unbelievably dead-sure replies that CCT gave after you let him know that “preaching will get him nowhere”, it is clear that he knows your thoughts, intentions, experience, or what else, better than you do yourself! Perhaps you should ask his advice before posting a comment, even on your own blog. 🙂 I admire your patience.
    Hope that CCT has read, and will answer, my question about the box he referred to.

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    • Thank you, Federico. I’m glad someone saw through his “meddling.” It never ceases to amaze me how Christians think they have all the answers on why people leave the faith. It’s all so cut and dried for them. Of course, one of my favorite lines is … You were never really saved. Baloney!

      Anyway, I too would like to see his answer to your question about the box.

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  8. Quite a number of the deconvertees currently blogging were not only died in the wool Creationists but some were also ministers. KIA for one.
    Nate was as fundy as they come I suspect and yet time after time god- botherers such as CCT will try to assert such folk – like you, Nan – were never really a Christian.
    So exactly how do they define a genuine Christian?

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    • From what one of my blog visitors said (who has since been banned for excessive “preaching”):

        you have to have experienced “the living God” working in your heart and life,
        you have to have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you,
        you have to read the bible in the power of the spirit (as opposed to the flesh),
        and you have to attend a church that isn’t considered “heretical.”

      One of her final comments to me was: “You may have participated in the things of the Spirit, much as Judas, but you were never truly born again.”

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      • Odd, isn’t it, that every deconvert considered themselves as genuine Christians and, like you, no doubt, were accepted as such.

        So the only litmus test is if you remain a Christian.
        Aaah … but there are a great many who are still considered Christians that have actually rejected their faith – see the Clergy Project.
        So how do we know someone like CCT is not a fraud?
        I think you should call him/her out and level this charge.

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        • Ark you raise a good point. Even at the time of Augustine there was a big argument in the North African Church about which members were real Christians. Augustine argued that everyone should be accepted and then it could be left to God.

          But the disputes as to who is a real Christian goes back even to the New Testament days. The Apostle Paul in the letters to Galatians and Corinthians spends much time making his case against rivals who he claims are false Christians. The first letter of John was motivated by a church split and of course he argued those who left were not real Christians.

          Studying Christian history shows splits all the time. The only time the Church does not split is when it has political power and uses the power of the State to persecute dissenters. Even the great man Augustine used the state for this purpose.

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        • Well, the refunded Marcion and turfed him out , declaring him a heretic!
          The did something similar to Arias, and no doubt tons of others, including the Cathars who the Catholics attempted t exterminate.

          As there was no such individual as portrayed in the bible then I guess there really is no such thing as a genuine Christian, right?

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        • I suppose if there was a genuine Christian the issue remains how would we know?

          One of the most prominent Christians of the 20th century, Billy Graham, is now being called a heretic in some circles.

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